Listen now | What’s theoretical physics got to do with trees? Everything. Physicist Anastassia Makarieva has dedicated her life to understanding how the world’s forests regulate not just themselves but the water system of the entire planet. Alongside her colleagues, Anastassia is desperately trying to raise awareness of the dangers of disturbing the world’s forest, especially the Boreal forest, which despite being the largest on the planet is often forgotten about. She says stopping logging overnight would have the biggest impact on reducing climate change. So why isn’t anyone listening?
Quickly, because I did study Austrian Economics (free market economy idea) in the early eighties, in simple terms, the concept of money and debt was the cause of over consumption of the biota (not in their words, but that fits my understanding). These early books (back then little or no fossil fuels to prop up the economy) on this subject these authors were very concerned about the boom then collapse of economies, and they did understand the concept of the biota.
Of course, they believe Gold to be the most stable form of money mainly because if its scarcity, that scarcity kept the economic value at a low level.
Today, we do not have a free market economy. We have monopoly money debt system and free market capitalism which abhors the free market economy. The elite controllers are fascists, their primary directive is the higher level of destruction, the more of the surplus they can siphon off, the higher the profits. Lots of people now are depending on these monetary flows, you know...
Anyway, takes a bit to get used to the accent, this person is on point in my view.
Fascinating interview with incredible scientist. I’ll be planting more trees this winter!
Clever and so enlightening.
Very good science!
I wish we had a transcript of this interview. Between 1985-1991, I wrote 6 teaching packs on the biggest crisis facing us - the loss of natural systems, in particular the forests. Now getting rid of fossil fuels is the main act in town and no one seems to understand the vital role of forests for the human world and no one wants to tackle the evil people that are lying and cheating and logging their way to get rich. At least the drivers of fossil fuels can be seen and named and be subject to some regulation - not so the loggers. And why hasn't this vital understanding of our ecosystems been at the forefront of our curriculum? I've argued and argued for the twin need to have education for ecological understanding and develop a sense of awe and wonder for the natural world. I'm 72 now and started on this journey in 1979. I'm losing hope that anything will be achieved when the very best of the environment and development movement is so focused on fossil fuels and a just transition. There is no social justice for anyone when the custodians of our forests across the world are marginalised, murdered, cleared so their precious forests can be felled. How can we move away from exploitation of nature to satisfy the drive to consume? Or to get rich? Thank you for this wonderful episode of your brilliant podcast Rachel.