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The wealthy, even those invested in pension and mutual funds, are the problem, alluded to the phrase Susan used of feeding off consumption is what I've typed as siphoning the surplus. People who are not integrated to anything except money.

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An growing intense interview of someone who has considerably thought about the many connections of this particular social arrangement. I highly doubt anything is going to happen towards these ideas, and if some lucky event does occur that will facilitate the start of re-engineering society, it still must rely on finite resources.

Its all downhill from here, all we need to do is choose what side of the mountain range we will travel, its all about the slope!. By the way, its not too bad off the mountain, life doesn't need computers.

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