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Tom Jablonski's avatar

A thought on The Conclusion of Turchin’s book END TIMES in regards to ending the age of the power sucking MEGA’ers

Although his models maybe useful in understanding how the elites suck power from everybody else and destroy the planet in the process, his conclusions leave me a bit concerned that his wish would be for the Big Suck (Turnchin’s Wealth Pump model) to go on into eternity, but in a more benevolent manner. I think this is highlighted in his conclusion of END TIMES where he proclaims:

“Complex human societies need elites – rulers, administrators, thought leaders – to function well. We don’t want to get rid of them; the trick is to constrain them to act for the benefit of all”.

I don’t think performing “tricks” will do much in the ultimate constraint of the elites who will simply continue to suck as long as they can. I also don’t buy into Turchin’s conclusion that we need them. What I believe we do need to do is make it clear to them and their administrators and thought leaders that this really is the end time of the elites and their power sucking ways. Unless we figure out a way to really end their reign, then the end times of all of us (and much of the planet) is the likely conclusion I see coming down the road.

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Richard Bergson's avatar

The wealth of elites gives them media power

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Nigel Southway's avatar

A vivid imagination is a dangerous thing.

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Tim Coombe's avatar

A lack of one even more so.

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Felix MacNeill's avatar

Pretend pitiless is just pretentious obtuseness.

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Richard Bergson's avatar

…which they use to promote anti-migrant and anti-‘woke’ rhetoric. This can be counteracted by concerted messaging over all the platforms promoting the real cause of increasing poverty which is the extraction that you mention of the little wealth that remains in the lower 80% of the population. It will be a case of who is telling the better story and comments from billionaires such as you quote will be grist to this particular mill.

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Too bad the new Netflix doc on Epstein didn't mention Drumpf. It's very strange that even the "expose" books on Epstein don't focus on the global elite regime fascist. Sarah Ransome: "I also know she had sexual relations with Trump at Jeffery [Epstein]'s NY mansion on regular occasions as I once met Jen for coffee, just before she was going to meet Trump and Epstein together at his mansion." - Sarah Ransome is a credible witness also. Ransome had said that she had a friend who was "one of the many girls that had sexual relations with Donald Trump" and that the friend said she had sex with Trump in Epstein's Manhattan mansion. But in an interview with ITV's Good Morning Britain on Tuesday, after the documents were released, Ms Ransome said she only walked back her claims because of threats to her family. Among them was a sworn affidavit filed by a British-South African woman named Sarah Ransome, who joined the case as Jane Doe 43, and was represented, pro bono, by Boies and McCawley. Ransome received a settlement in 2018 after suing Epstein and Maxwell for an undisclosed amount. Michael Wolff, 10/31/24, EPISODE 22: JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND DONALD TRUMP

The paedophile financier had about half a dozen pictures that showed Trump by the pool with multiple young women, Wolff claimed on his podcast, Fire & Fury, Thursday Wolff said of the images: “They were with Trump at Epstein’s Palm Beach house sitting around the pool with these young girls, and the young girls are topless. Wolff alleged that Epstein had showed him the photos – and that he believes they were seized by the FBI from a safe during raids on Epstein’s homes in July 2019.

nevertheless castration is still necessary. "In 1996, California became the first state in the U.S. to authorize castration as a condition of parole for certain sex offenses. The California Penal Code provides that offenders convicted of certain sex crimes against children under 13 years of age may undergo chemical or surgical castration before parole."

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-14-phone-numbers-connected-trump-black-book-2019-7

Jeffrey Epstein, the wealthy financier charged with sex trafficking, reportedly bragged he was the one who introduced Donald and Melania Trump Kat Tenbarge Jul 16, 2019, The New York Times reported that Epstein has claimed he introduced Trump to his third wife, Melania. An accuser in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial said Epstein took her to meet Trump when she was 14. Trump, who said he'd known Epstein for "fifteen years" in a 2002 New York Magazine profile. Virginia Giuffre claims Maxwell approached her while she was working at Trump's resort to recruit her into giving Epstein a massage. A photo from 2000 shows Trump, Melania Trump (then Melania Knauss), Epstein, and Maxwell at the resort together. The photo at the top of the page is of the two together in Palm Beach in 1997. Epstein noted Trump's contact information in his infamous "black book" and let Trump use his private jet. Trump and Epstein were neighbors in Palm Beach, and they went to dinner parties at each other's houses. Trump's name and contact information also appear in Epstein's "black book" that kept track of his friends and associates. In Trump's entry, which Gawker redacted identifying information from, both his New York and Palm Beach addresses are listed, along with 14 phone numbers, including at least two of "Milania's" numbers, a person identified as "Howard Wilson Houseman," "Trump Security," and a person identified as "Norma direct emergency contact," who was likely Trump's now-deceased longtime executive assistant. Trump had a modeling agency, and Epstein also had a stake in a modeling agency, which they suspect he used to bring in underage girls from overseas." Epstein is quoted as saying, 'I want to set up my modeling agency the same way Trump set up his modeling agency,'" A suit alleging that Trump knowingly raped a 13-year-old in Epstein's Manhattan residence was filed in 2016... alleged that the victim attended multiple parties at Epstein's residence in the summer of 1994, that Trump also attended. An anonymous witness claimed to be an employee of Epstein. Trump was said to have attended at least four of the same parties, and to have known the plaintiff was 13 years old, since he knew her for the previous seven years, too....Trump repeatedly initiated sexual contact with the plaintiff, then on the fourth encounter at one of Epstein's parties, tied her to a bed, exposed himself, and "forcibly raped" her...."During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but with no effect," the document alleges. "Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff's pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted."...The plaintiff further alleged that Epstein raped her after Trump, and that both told her she and her family would be killed if she ever revealed the details of what had happened. A former Trump associate told The New York Times that Trump and Epstein were once the only other attendees at a Mar-a-Lago party with more than two dozen women. Former Trump associate George Houraney told The Times that the women were flown into Palm Beach, Florida, in 1992 for a "calendar girl" competition at Trump's request. In the 1990s and early 2000s, Epstein and Trump were photographed together and attended the same dinner parties, according to The Times. "I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy," Trump told New York Magazine in 2002. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-reportedly-bragged-he-introduced-trump-to-melania-2019-7

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-everything-we-know-about-his-relationship-with-trump-2019-7

"On October 25, 2016, allegations were made by two men stating that Trump had attended and partaken in sex parties filled with underage minor females as young as 15 years old who were induced with promises of career advancement. Illegal drugs were also alleged to have been provided to the minors....

Lucchesi, for his part, claimed that he saw Trump engage in sexual activity with the girls but did not witness him taking illicit drugs."

drumpf has 14 phone contacts in Epstein's Blackbook as Business Insider reported. Then a 2nd Epstein blackbook was discovered and verified - with Melania's BF as an Epstein contact with Epstein bragging he got Melania and Drumpf hooked up. Then there's the Netflix Ghislaine Maxwell doc showing Mar-A-Lago as a main source for Epstein's Florida victims.

If Drumpf gets Epsteined in prison - I would not be surprised.

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Dawgg Chapman's avatar

Those are not the elites.. the elites are the Hollywood career politicians, and also people like George Soros and Bill Gates are on a whole another level

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Penelope Taylor's avatar

New Zealand is also on this path - tax cuts for the wealthy, privatisation of state owned assets, destruction of the state run health system etc - and the effect is an ever increasing tide of poverty, homelessness, and in between the extremes, many highly skilled young professionals leaving the country in numbers that exceed anything seen in previous years…

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MonkeyBalancingBuddha's avatar

Wonderful article thank you 🙏🙏🙏

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Serge's avatar

Excellent ! Thank you Rachel !

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John William Stacy's avatar

“This is pure greed.” 💯

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