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Very interesting content and exchange. I especially appreciate your pushback on some statements Rupert made. Too often, interviewers merely provide a soapbox for guests to wax poetic about their views. You made obvious that all matters connect in some fashion--in other words they exist within systems, complicating the narrative.

I'm a new listener, looking forward to future your future shows.

Thank you for adding content to the useful discussion about the challenges we face moving forward.

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