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Nice to see George finally made time for you : )

That was a good conversation.

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I love George Monbiot, but neither he nor the other clear voices, like Thom Hartmann or Robert Reich, here in the States, do more than express outrage to people who agree with them. What’s bigger than that, that can be effective to change things? That’s what I deal with -- how we-the-people aren’t even using the internet to organize ourselves, where everyone is a gadfly and nothing is offered to collect the 25% of us who would create the system change we need.

It may be we just lack for good ideas, like getting ourselves to become a force on the net, that could be easier now than taking to the streets. The most effective thing to create the massive change we need would be to get a new idea of what humanity is doing here -- a new creation story where we aren’t sinners climbing over one another but are one humanity. As we think, so we act, so getting that thinking to change, to the natural place where we are altruists by fundamental design, would be what could get all the changes we need to occur.

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For those interested in more of Nikki Yoxall’s engagements with Monbiot-esque food system arguments. We recorded s podcast episode on Landscapes devoted to this subject: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/landscapes/id1552882054?i=1000638159188

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Pleasant to see Rachel found time for George.

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What seems impossible, becomes inevitable.....

It seems impossible now to believe that there is a level of consciousness above the normal, human mentality and reason even though there have been many examples of that achievement throughout history......oh, well, we tried (some did, most continued as part of the herd)......yet, now that seems the only possible way of evolving beyond our Anthropocentric mess is to operated at a level above that which got us into this mess in the first place (Einstein paraphrased)......what seems impossible, becomes inevitable? I hope so.......

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Regeneration is a big part of "the way". The wealth is literally in the soil.

"And what we saw was that the natural regeneration of the ecological lands actually were the basis of the support for the agricultural lands. So it was possible for them to increase productivity by reducing the area in cultivation. And they were recognizing the natural ecological function has a value, and the value of that is higher than the value of the production. So this was quite a huge difference. I began to question many of the things that I had been taught in school and the socialization that I was getting. And I realized that what I was seeing was it's possible to rehabilitate large scale, degraded landscapes, including areas that had been destroyed over long, historic time and over vast areas."

https://youtu.be/TYHVQssoDEs

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That was a really great conversation. George is such a force for good. His recent BBC Question Time appearance really nailed what needs to be done about fossil fuels - we need to keep them in the ground (and he explains how and why with clarity).

And good to know that even George can't avoid having Daily Mail reading relatives as well!

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