The last 20 minutes of this episode are pure gold dust. The duality of people existing in their own bubble and being disconnected from the more than human world, and how the current economic system can be more or less sustainable but missed the point that it does not encompass the rights and wild impulse of the more than human world.

In quiet moments I often feel deep sadness for how we treat the more than human world, in a general sense but also in particular around factory farming, and find myself making a commitment to do what I can to change the way we humans behave.

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Another triumph, Rachel!

There is so much to explore in this multi-vectored conversation. I am imagining multiple small group gatherings of people who care at, to steal another great phrase of yours, the vanguard of public discourse, replaying this tape, and stopping it at various points along the way to unpack different points as a way of bringing people into a new 21st Century Citizenship in an evolving new 21st Century Social Contract.

Two points that are very present for me in the afterglow.

One, here again, as in so many other conversations, there is a critique of capitalism that: never mentions the word "capital"; never discusses its functioning as money for finance; never explores the role of finance as money for enterprise in what Delilah Rothenberg of The Pre-Distribution Initiative insightfully calls predistribution that shapes the patterns of distribution within the economy; and never deconstructs the institutional structures of finance, to find out who decides, and how they decide what they decide and how they are held accountable for the authenticity and integrity of the decisions that they make, and for their institutional exercise of institutional powers, true, or not so true, to their institutional purpose.

Two, this:

@14:49 “our challenge is not just a matter of getting a handle on greedy corporations. It’s much more complicated than that”

Yes, and no.

Greed is both a human weakness and an institutional failing. Greed as a human failing rarely breaks the social contract. Corporate greed often does. So, what we need to do is see corporate greed as an institutional failing, and then pull on that thread to see what institution is actually failing. When we do, we find the answer in a most unexpected place: it is the institution of The Pension Promise that is failing its institutional purpose, and breaking the social contract in consequence.

The good news here is that correcting the institutional failing of The Pension Promise is really not very difficult to do. We just have to agree that we need to do it!

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