I feel like I’m on crazy pills here. How can so many people be so tuned out on this?
1. It was a record turnout
2. It was huge number of dem registrations
3. Kamala had all the energy and over packed crowds
4. Trump was losing energy and couldn’t fill venues
5. Documented posts for weeks where musk talks about a prophecy using the polymarket maps showing the exact results weeks before and up to the night of the election
6. The ceo of polymark had his home raided and was arrested just days ago
7. Over 80 bomb threats phoned in from Russia to DEM polls
8. A nationally recognized gold standard pollster of only the state of Iowa somehow after decades gets it entirely wrong with her state.
9. Russia has come out and said trump owes the ones who brought him to power
10 Computer scientists, cyber security experts and other techies are screaming their heads off about this being a hack and hand recounts are needed
11. The swing states all have abnormally high bullet votes for only trump
12.News stories are coming out saying Hispanic men did not abandon Harris at the polls.
13. the Republican running for senator in Wisconsin(a swing state) has conceded even though he is within striking distance if he asked for a recount
That’s my question exactly - where are the news stories about this? And how quickly everyone just jumped on, “she lost. What do you expect? We all knew it was a long shot.”
Stories can be completely implausible - "oh no, the Secret Service couldn't see a guy who was setting up a gun on the roof for two minutes while ladies with poor eyesight in the crowd pointed him out, because their emails were going through slow, or something" - and as long as the implausible story is an alternative to something UNTHINKABLE, people will accept it and insist everyone else do the same.
Now, I don't know if there were any conspiracies surrounding Butler, or the election, but it's incredibly frustrating that we just take the narratives from the most dishonest people on the planet at face value.
And yes I did read the article. And as per usual, I'm still waiting for anyone to answer my question about how machines handled as they are in GA are affected, considering every detail of handling, and the fact they are 100% airgapped. Please dove technical. I have worked with these machines and our procedures here in GA as king as we've had them, not to mention the earlier machines. And I'm no stranger to It. I saw nothing at all that covered any of the issues I've mentioend. Nothing. Let me know when you see something that covers the bare minimum of how Dem observers missed all of this in every precinct in this state. I'll be waiting.
here is my question from what point to what point are they air gapped? and are they fully wiped and sanitized before letting voters vote? or is the operating systems assumed clean since the last election and simply used again?
my main question is what are the steps from getting the systems ready to deploying them to pulling the data out of them and then tbulating that data and comparing it to voter rolls?
also I think what might be happening is there was enough buzz about the sweepstakes. that might be where all the bullet ballots came from and that is still buying votes and illegal but not sure there is anything that can be done about it.
the sweepstakes also was a great data harvesting tactic by Musk. there’s no way he doesn’t know the potential of that info for misuse. did he do it? i doubt we will ever know. i know i wouldn’t put it past him or Trump and it’s totally on par for Putin and his FSB etc. Musk has plenty of form defying regulations and decency when personal enrichment is on the line for him. eg defying the Covid workplace lockdowns other than essential goods and services and forcing unpaid overtime on workers to hit his obscene bonus remuneration shipped car thresholds.
Too many news are just talking like Teump will be President...but the good is that people Maga or Dems can see the devastation coming and that might unite the country. Let us help that. Now I do not mind hearing how bad it will be as I am hearing even Maga citizens get upset. They will rebel as in the Tea Party. United we Stand.
I do agree John. I said from the beginning that the Gop was too quiet and Musk was elated at a stupid rally for good reason. The fix was in. Him winning all swing states was too perfect. Now let’s see if the Dems can reverse this horror show before inauguration. And btw that is why Trump is all out there building his cabinet out loud to drown out everything else.
How much do you want to bet Musk, Thiel, Johnson etc., were shitting their pants when Trump talked about their "little secret" publicly, thinking he had blown up their spot in a really huge way, until the media told them nah, don't worry about it, we have no follow-up questions.
(I don't think the election was stolen, and if it was the manipulation likely wasn't just in swing states because things shifted to Trump pretty evenly nationwide. But can't we at least put as much effort into TRYING to find fraud as they do? It's like we take our credulity to be a virtue.)
Trump was in a video after the supposed Butler shooting where he slipped and said "my sons are great shots" and I can't be the only person to have heard that. You can't trust anything they do, nothing. Instinct, intuition, education, and experience tell me it was hacked, but I can't prove it. I hope somebody sits up and takes notice. I'm sharing this post. Widely.
I still am dumbfounded that I haven't seen any diagrams of the victims and their position in regards to Trump on the stage. No angles given, no distance given, just quiet on all fronts.
There's a group could diagnose situations like this that they decide to, I believe they're called forensic architecture and it would be great if they figured it out, they probably could.
Miles I agree with the top part of your writing. I’ve been very involved in the voting process though, and I think that if the vote was manipulated it was through extra ballots being given for Trump and passed thru by his minions. I don’t think the machines were manipulated because judges have to balance counts against ballots at the end of voting. And we saw where ballot boxes were set on fire and not a word from either side. Really? Is this legit?
I only heard of two ballot boxes that were set on fire, one in Portland Oregon and one in Vancouver Washington. The ballots were mostly saved in one of them. I'll check it out and see if I find more.
You know there were bomb threats from the Russians in dem precincts, right? They're always make it very hard for Black people to vote there, like long lines and bomb threats and reduced ballot boxes.
the weekday voting, WTAF why not on a Saturday given more people the chance to vote without taking a day off work which for many people is not an option ?!,
Ballot boxes set on fire in Grand Junction Colorado and another small town, AND 2 young women Stole over a dozen ballots out of the mail and signed voted submitted them... as "an experiment" that was Caught and landed them in Jail.
which shows how little voter fraud of the conventional type of “vote many” actually occurs in most countries. it’s the systematic fraud that needs more careful scrutiny.
It’s not just the swing states that need recounts. When I voted in the middle of Election Day, I was told that not only my polling site had run out of I Voted stickers, but every polling site in the city of Nee York had as well. Yet the results indicate that many fewer people than usual voted here. What happened to our votes?
A few of Musks public displays of teenage-like arrogance seemed telling to me. the moment he went nuts on stage at a Trump rally was like he’d just been notified the fix was in, wouldn’t be detected, would work as planned, and his empire was about to continue on its government funded way with rules made to harass the progress of all his competitors (not that i have much sympathy for legacy automaker executives and shareholders, they’ve defied the transition to EVs for decades and actively tried to obstruct it, so on one level they deserve all harms coming their way)
Aw idk -- tell it to the judge. It was bad enough listening to Tramp seemingly forever talking about the steal -- I mean if there’s evidence yeah we all want to hear it and see it
media was calling it before polling closed in CA, yet the final results showed it being a much tighter race. obviously it was a big swing, but down to the wire in terms of electoral collage votes in seven swing states. and all miraculously tallying just above the hand recount automatic threshold. too cute.
Yes, quoting another headline's question: "Are we at war with Russia?", the answer is yes, at least since 2014, of the greyzone variety. Trump appears to be an asset, perhaps since the late 1980s with Russian mob money buying his properties, bailing him out after bankruptcies, Gabbard may be an asset, they successfully hacked 2016 with active measures, and repeated that playbook in 2024 (see WAPO discussion of dark funding money, this is legal in our system), Musk and Trump in regular communication with Putin this past year (see Woodward), Musk saying he could hack the current system, also saying he will go to jail if Trump does not win, Trump knew he was going to jail if he did not win, Russia knows its going to lose vs Ukraine if Trump did not win, all three have means, methods and strong motives for this outcome.
Don't forget about James Kallstrom (deceased) & Charles McGonigal (in min. sec. prison in Minnesota, likely soon to be pardoned by Trump) also being part of all of this. They were also instrumental in infiltrating and compromising our FBI, & turning FBI Agents under them to loyalty to Trump. In fact, one of McGonigal's counterparts (Albanian) is running a foreclosure realty company in US right now. I would hazard a guess they all run in the same circles as Ivanka/Jared are in Albania.
not so sure about Ukraine results. Russia gained six times as much Ukrainian territory in 2024 as it did in 2023. most observers say Russia can maintain its grind while Zelenskyy is saying Ukraine must settle for peace and let Russia have its territorial gains in return for agreement that they can become part of NATO (officially as opposed to proxy NATO) . to save face he’s saying they must then trying to win back territories piecemeal style through “diplomatic” efforts). so why did he send his country to war, again?
Did Spoonamore go to the FBI? If a crime was committed the concession doesn’t matter. If a crime was committed the certification of the election doesn’t matter.
I hope that's true, because the dems and the media are silent. I'm so heartbroken that the out of state billionaire took Casey's seat for Senate in PA, too. and there was a recount.
I have been sending articles to my local media. I sent this and have called the White House. I watch The View and they seem unaware. They don’t discuss it. I can’t even get through to them does anyone? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!! NC deadline is Friday! ACT! Don’t just complain.
Maybe if each of us demands a recount at our precincts that would be a start?
if you live in NC contact Stephen Spoonamore directly, or just call the election officials and ask how to request a hand recount. this is moving very quickly
no Dems or corporate media want to be accused of being as bad as Trump. that’s the cleverness in the psychological projection narcissists use. they accuse other of that which they do themselves, making counter claims at some later point odious, nobody wants to stoop to their level of “false claims” again, even if the claims are credible and backed with evidence.
…democrats knew about the threat, had time to prevent it, but were busy gloating about Kamala’s “crowd size” comparing to trump and expected a “blue tsunami”, well… country that allows a dictator to become a dictator after he said he will be a dictator DESERVE A DICTATOR
Only problem is we have to suffer the consequences along with them.
Perhaps they should divide the country in half: if you believe in reality and science and learning and knowledge, that's half the country, the other half would be maga, religious, book banners and the like. Please tell me we outnumber them?
for climate this is a major setback and will result in major damage to climate systems and ecological communities will be lost because of it i would think. we were just getting some momentum in the global efforts to transition away after four decades of blah blah blah the economics of RE have become unstoppable, but with FF oligarchs in the whitehouse and running the EPA it can be obstructed and delayed (hello Elon Musk, you complete fraud, remember those crocodile tears you wept about planetary GHG boundaries all those years ago).
Ian Dunlop and David Spratt call what the fossil fuels and many other GHG emitting industries do “predatory delay”. and they are absolutely masters at it. there they re clogging up the corridors t every COP talk and inside every superPAC and inside every parliament house/Congress/Duma screwing the future for the sake of obscene wealth for themselves and their friends.
1. This NYTimes map goes into precinct detail for 2020 election. Maybe, for swing States the precincts would be similar enough (to 2024 election) that you could capture the precinct to get the name of the precinct to request recounts.
My problem with all of this is I've heard all of these "experts" yell for years about how easy it is to hack machines, when they clearly didn't understand how they were secured and handled physically, and you'd have to do some significant B&E to get to those "get into the machine in minutes" things they claimed were simple. I've been working elections with machines in Georgia since they were first introduced. I have worked for a very long time in IT. Perhaps I've just heard hair on fire nonsense for too long, and am so jaded I don't think it's worth my time to give the possibility of actual hacking any serious thought. I have no objection to anyone looking for evidence. Let me know when you find some. Till then I'll chalk it up to election shock (which I am feeling myself fwiw) and some bloviating of IT guys, which I've been exposed to, oh, it's pushing half a century now.
Serghiy what are you Russian? We don’t deserve a dictator, no one does. We deserve an honest President who wants to help people and not hurt them. A president who is not in it for himself, who wants to steal the US blind and give his cronies contracts and $$$$$.
if you live in a Swing state call and ask an election official. even if just half a dozen get done, and there is a difference as Spoonamore predicts, then the dominoes could start falling, and the FBI could get started, I hope!
The Bannon strategy has indeed succeeded beyond belief. It has become slowly and distressingly ever clearer as the days and weeks and months and years have unfolded.
i don't know see why anybody needs to explain the bullet ballot anomaly. last i heard, these voting machines were completely unhackable. absolutely impenetrable. there was no need to wonder about the wisdom of moving away from paper ballots. it was as if God Himself was carving the vote totals onto the stone tablets at Mount Sinai. we didn't need to ask if juking the machines was theoretically possible; in fact, even asking the question was borderline treasonous.
so if we're going to treat our elections like a hack-a-thon, and Elon Musk managed to crack whatever Vulcan quantum-computing technology was being used in 2020—i guess he really is a supergenius who won the vote on a technicality, and deserves to be part of the new government as a Vetruvian Superman.
What i am hearing in your response is a dismissal of anomaly data. You have revealed yourself to be who I did not want to assume you to be. If you aren’t willing to look at that and say “yeah, that’s really weird. It probably should be looked at”, and instead respond with mockery, then you are obviously not a person who is here in good faith. I don’t recall the “unhackable” cries from 4 years ago. I recall “Hugo Chavez” and “Venezuela”. I recall Rudy Giuliani lying about poll workers. I recall 60 lawsuits, all of which failed due to lack of merit. I recall a bunch of audits and recounts. And dems didn’t fight that. All of that activity went through proper judicial process, much of which went through republican-appointed judges. So, I will ask again. If there is glaring anomaly in the number of bullet ballots just in swing states, do you think it’s a prudent idea to have a look at that? Or are you just a f’ing MAGAt clown who came here to show what a disingenuous pos you are.
Also, Elon is the richest man in the country, and possibly the world. That doesn’t make him some kind of hacking superman. He can simply hire people to do that. And as it was outlined, hacking superskills were not required. Only bad actors willing to do it. And since Republicans are basically fascists at this point who will stop at nothing to take power, in order to save “Dear Leader” Trump, I accept the possibility that YES, this could have happened. If you don’t, then you are either willfully ignorant or as malevolent as they are.
just out of curiosity—what's with this Victorian prudishness about swearing on the Internet? it's not like you're genuinely being polite: you only left out three letters of the word "fucking," so the implication is already clear. you're obviously comfortable comparing your political opponents to maggots. so why the pretense? people compulsively use these bizarre little anti-Trump innuendos and seem delighted with their own cleverness, as if these are *super* sophisticated insults. it's like children tittering about their first poop joke. very strange for an adult.
regardless, i'm an anarchist, so i don't have a dog in this fight. a pox on both your houses. (still astonishing how limited people's political imaginations are, when they believe that any critics of their side must necessarily be part of the opposition, as if their own moral universe is absolute. good luck with that in future elections.)
what i'm dismissing is the blatantly stupid double standard. wish i had time to put together a supercut of all the "conspiracy theory" dismissals of election fraud from the past four years; i've linked just one below, and trust that you can find your way around Google well enough to do the rest. this is the Faustian bargain that the legacy media made when it explicitly—proudly, even—jettisoned objectivity in the name of stopping Trump: the only thing they succeeded in doing was losing the trust of over half of the electorate. this is exactly why the Fourth Estate was meant to be a non-partisan institution. they can report on investigations and anomalies until they're blue in the face, and some of it might even be true, but a significant number of people will not take them seriously. i'm not a data scientist. i'll "explain the anomaly" when you explain why my car is making that funny noise. i rely on other people to tell me what's important, and i emphatically DO NOT TRUST the people who just spent four years saying that Trump was Literally Hitler, and they would do Anything to Save Democracy. that horse ran out of the barn years ago.
meanwhile, the people in your camp spent four years claiming that Trump won illegitimately in 2016; then you took four years off to scoff at the "MAGAts" who would dare to suggest there was any kind of self-dealing in 2020; now you're back to screaming at the top of your lungs that the whole thing is some sort of Illuminati plot. you cried wolf too many times. these are the consequences you get to live with. maybe there's a lesson here for the future.
in the meantime, you kids have fun storming the castle.
Um, to get away from sweeping rants about the media and back to intellectual honestly— a key reason for the dismissal of Trump’s stolen election complaints is that there was never data supportive of his claims. Another key reason is that despite that lack of data, his claims were investigated thoroughly and repeatedly, exhaustively! by Trump-funded, Trump-aligned groups, and despite that, there was never any evidence of fraud discovered.
“We don’t need to investigate this anomaly because you all said it was safe” is disingenuous at best, and bare trolling at worst. It’s possible to think you’ve secured something, and be wrong. If there is direct data suggestive of foul play, it should be explored.
so they can call people hysterical if they point to that probably. also hubris. few men in the world with more hubris than Elon Musk, who amongst all his false claims and unrealised promises, claimed a few years ago he probably knows more about manufacture technology than anybody in the world. presumably more than those engineers who work for companies doing the actual work of detailed design/specification of the new manufacturing technologies that Tesla and SpaceX are iterating from existing state of the art industrial processes.
the difference between this and “stop the steal” is that I don’t want this to be true, but the swing state data is troubling and would appear compelling enough to warrant a hand count. in the very least it would lay these concerns to rest.
Common sense raises a red flag for me. How on earth all swing states. Ot was too perfect. And now the probability is s scientifically too perfect to be true. 🤷🏼♀️
Yes Linda. Exactly. Too easy for trumpolini. And Harris had phenomenal crowds with wild enthusiasm. Are we going to wait until a criminal destroys our country, then find out he cheated AGAIN!
The recount circus in Arizona in 2021 was wild and was encouraged by a right-wing organization to do. Election results didn’t change after the recount was done.
Yes. A HAND RECOUNT of the 7 swing states would remedy everything. How to get that accomplished? Get busy and contact the White House & your representatives.
Because the left in those states can’t count. If you think they didn’t get it right the first time, why would you trust them to get it right a second time. Lol
That’s what I don’t understand. If we did the recount and the result was the same (as it was in 2020), then at least we’d KNOW. If anything the multiple 2020 recounts (3x in GA!!!) should’ve been reassuring that THOSE elections were exceedingly secure. But now…the math truly isn’t mathing. We can scientifically and critically provide empirical data (not theories or “gut feelings” but REAL EVIDENCE) that none of this makes sense. The powers that be, who are supposed to protect us against dictatorship, know this in their hearts to be true. Then, if they truly love America and our democracy as they claim, WHY ARE THEY NOT DOING OR SAYING ANYTHING??!!
Violence and staging an insurrection at the Capitol was cowardly and stupid for anyone to do, let alone if Jan 6 was just a few people at the capitol instead of thousands. Like they thought they wouldn’t get caught for doing what they did? They were wrong.
I’m really tired hearing of election fraud, but this is a cause for concern that reminds me of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election that was never fully resolved. Wasn’t that considered to be the Mueller Report?
If a recount is attempted in the swing states mentioned in the article, I don’t think they’d have enough time to certify them by the deadline which is sometime in early December. So I’m guessing an investigation by the DOJ would need to happen and that could take a while, kind of like how the Mueller Report took awhile for it to be released.
The reason for the swing state sweep is that the majority of people are sick of the left wing rot in our country. Trump won despite the cheating on the left. Funny how the left wing states can’t count😂😂. Ridiculous they are still counting and voilà! The left candidate wins by 5 votes. What a fraud!!
I’ve seen news reports that mock this as “blue-anon” conspiracy theories. When our trusted investigative journalists won’t check into this and verify or disprove it, how are we ever going to know what’s true and what’s false? Given the decade of propaganda from the MAGA camp, I despair for the truth.
In the 2020 election only Republicans challenged election results, only for Trump & only in swing states. Democrats ignored the numerous suspicious congressional results, in which the vast majority of tossup races went to Republicans, a highly improbable result. Lindsey Graham, who was caught pressuring Georgia officials to throw out votes from majority Democratic precincts, was in a tossup race himself, the most expensive Senate race up to that time. Do you think he wouldn't have first made sure South Carolina election officials secured the win for him before concerning himself with other states? Do you think that if Trump & Graham were meddling in the elections of certain states that other Republicans weren't doing the same in other states?
Now many people have looked at all the suspicious evidence & put 2 & 2 together & called the alarm that the election has been tampered with, & this administration & congressional Democrats have failed to react. That makes the Democratic Party, especially the DNC & corporatist establishment, along with Biden, Garland & the DOJ & FBI, useless, if not complicit, in the loss of our democracy & everything else good about America as we knowingly slip into fascism with no resistance by those with the authority & power to stop & reverse this course.
I agree Jaime and said this same thing in my comment before I saw yours. Such a lack of action from Biden, Harris, DNC, of course…Garland, & FBI. They appear fine with throwing us to FASCISM without a fight with the biggest psychopath, seditionist, rapist & CONVICTED Felon at the helm.
Trump shits on the FBI but they seem OK with everything too.
The Dems promised us democracy and let us down, big time. They are so ..ucking unaware what each one of them and also all of us are facing in this new administration.
they know plenty more than you and i about it. but they’re in a system that trades allegiance for the honour of high office. they need a lot more than potentially this looks off to stake heir reputations on. also look what Biden and Harris have been doing in the Middle East. the USA intelligence community and some of the Pentagon top brass are in control of that strategy and are paying the bills. it’s called Empire and it’s been around for eons.
The "liberal media" has always been a right wing talking point, nothing more. In other words, it's bullshit. So no, Maryan, they didn't get bored of aligning with the left because they were never aligned with them in the first place.
US media left wing? they don’t even allow academics like John Mershhiemer, professors of international relations/political science/political history known as “realists” on the US media, corporate, public (to the extent that even exists in USA) and they are just as critical of neocons if not more so than critical of liberalism and the constant wars perpetuated by the US Hegemony to defend and expand Empire and her perceived best interests (from an elitist perspective no doubt). there’s many US public intellectuals welcomed and respected in Europe who are just shut out of USA media. Chomsky at least gets an occasional hearing on PBS (with a very small national audience in comparison to the Murdoch media alone, then all the other RW corporate media) but i’m not aware of regular or irregular appearances on US corporate media.
the wall of lies and conditioning that is the US media (programs and advertising) is extremely biased towards supporting special interests with money and drowning out activists, truth, honesty and other ways of seeing the world that don’t play to commercial and military interests. it’s what Steve Bannon called “flooding the zone” with (suspicious) information so consumers of news-themed entertainment give up on knowing what to believe other than that which their own prejudices and tribal leaders tell the, to believe. Orwell called it Newspeak, but it doesn’t have to be so overtly propagandist emanating from a central point of total control. the Right have learned it can be decentralised, even as far as Russian cyber-security ops in Asian locations, and contradictory all the time, as long as it drowns out truth and destroys the potential for honest discourse in the public forums we have available to us.
This guy, Spoonamore says, “prove me wrong.” I think that’s a fair request. It’s worth looking into. He makes a compelling case. He’s confident the 2024 election was hacked. The quotes of Trump saying, “ I have enough votes,” are real. We all heard them in real time. We all saw and questioned the one-million dollar a day lottery that Musk ran in real time. I’m not an expert on computer technology but you don’t have to be to see CLEARLY, something nefarious went on here. As a side note, (was not mentioned in this article but I thought about it), is why did Ivanka needed and obtained a voting machine patent a couple years ago? Just asking out of curiosity.
THANK you for noting the voting machine patent(s)! I read that there were over 40 individual patents for voting machines that she obtained. Why on earth would one need those…🤔
That Ivanka got the trade concession on voting machines occurred and was reported on when she accompanied Dada to China as a “presidential advisor.” Body bags and coffins, too, which are also weird things for MsFashionista go want to dabble with profitably. A search should find a plethora of articles re. And notice she has stayed out of the country for some reason. Does the US have an extradition treaty with the Saudis?
We were attacked by Russia, musk and trump
I feel like I’m on crazy pills here. How can so many people be so tuned out on this?
1. It was a record turnout
2. It was huge number of dem registrations
3. Kamala had all the energy and over packed crowds
4. Trump was losing energy and couldn’t fill venues
5. Documented posts for weeks where musk talks about a prophecy using the polymarket maps showing the exact results weeks before and up to the night of the election
6. The ceo of polymark had his home raided and was arrested just days ago
7. Over 80 bomb threats phoned in from Russia to DEM polls
8. A nationally recognized gold standard pollster of only the state of Iowa somehow after decades gets it entirely wrong with her state.
9. Russia has come out and said trump owes the ones who brought him to power
10 Computer scientists, cyber security experts and other techies are screaming their heads off about this being a hack and hand recounts are needed
11. The swing states all have abnormally high bullet votes for only trump
12.News stories are coming out saying Hispanic men did not abandon Harris at the polls.
13. the Republican running for senator in Wisconsin(a swing state) has conceded even though he is within striking distance if he asked for a recount
What the hell is going on?!?!?
Why aren’t the elected Dems saying anything ?!?
Why has the media not picked this up?
That’s my question exactly - where are the news stories about this? And how quickly everyone just jumped on, “she lost. What do you expect? We all knew it was a long shot.”
Stories can be completely implausible - "oh no, the Secret Service couldn't see a guy who was setting up a gun on the roof for two minutes while ladies with poor eyesight in the crowd pointed him out, because their emails were going through slow, or something" - and as long as the implausible story is an alternative to something UNTHINKABLE, people will accept it and insist everyone else do the same.
Now, I don't know if there were any conspiracies surrounding Butler, or the election, but it's incredibly frustrating that we just take the narratives from the most dishonest people on the planet at face value.
TOTALLY! It seems, the more implausible, the better.
That was such a staged, false flag operation. The MAGA Reichstag Fire.
https://open.substack.com/pub/planetcritical/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked
And yes I did read the article. And as per usual, I'm still waiting for anyone to answer my question about how machines handled as they are in GA are affected, considering every detail of handling, and the fact they are 100% airgapped. Please dove technical. I have worked with these machines and our procedures here in GA as king as we've had them, not to mention the earlier machines. And I'm no stranger to It. I saw nothing at all that covered any of the issues I've mentioend. Nothing. Let me know when you see something that covers the bare minimum of how Dem observers missed all of this in every precinct in this state. I'll be waiting.
Spoonamore said exactly how they did it
and said an observer like you would have seen nothing amiss
https://substack.com/@pjlela/note/c-76502086?r
Election was totally hacked
Wake up people
here is my question from what point to what point are they air gapped? and are they fully wiped and sanitized before letting voters vote? or is the operating systems assumed clean since the last election and simply used again?
my main question is what are the steps from getting the systems ready to deploying them to pulling the data out of them and then tbulating that data and comparing it to voter rolls?
also I think what might be happening is there was enough buzz about the sweepstakes. that might be where all the bullet ballots came from and that is still buying votes and illegal but not sure there is anything that can be done about it.
the sweepstakes also was a great data harvesting tactic by Musk. there’s no way he doesn’t know the potential of that info for misuse. did he do it? i doubt we will ever know. i know i wouldn’t put it past him or Trump and it’s totally on par for Putin and his FSB etc. Musk has plenty of form defying regulations and decency when personal enrichment is on the line for him. eg defying the Covid workplace lockdowns other than essential goods and services and forcing unpaid overtime on workers to hit his obscene bonus remuneration shipped car thresholds.
My apologies for the typos. That's what I get for multitasking. If you can't make something out just ask.
Too many news are just talking like Teump will be President...but the good is that people Maga or Dems can see the devastation coming and that might unite the country. Let us help that. Now I do not mind hearing how bad it will be as I am hearing even Maga citizens get upset. They will rebel as in the Tea Party. United we Stand.
MAGAs see the destruction coming? only if you are talking about the second coming of christ or some other old testament biblical prophesy.
I do agree John. I said from the beginning that the Gop was too quiet and Musk was elated at a stupid rally for good reason. The fix was in. Him winning all swing states was too perfect. Now let’s see if the Dems can reverse this horror show before inauguration. And btw that is why Trump is all out there building his cabinet out loud to drown out everything else.
How much do you want to bet Musk, Thiel, Johnson etc., were shitting their pants when Trump talked about their "little secret" publicly, thinking he had blown up their spot in a really huge way, until the media told them nah, don't worry about it, we have no follow-up questions.
(I don't think the election was stolen, and if it was the manipulation likely wasn't just in swing states because things shifted to Trump pretty evenly nationwide. But can't we at least put as much effort into TRYING to find fraud as they do? It's like we take our credulity to be a virtue.)
Trump was in a video after the supposed Butler shooting where he slipped and said "my sons are great shots" and I can't be the only person to have heard that. You can't trust anything they do, nothing. Instinct, intuition, education, and experience tell me it was hacked, but I can't prove it. I hope somebody sits up and takes notice. I'm sharing this post. Widely.
I still am dumbfounded that I haven't seen any diagrams of the victims and their position in regards to Trump on the stage. No angles given, no distance given, just quiet on all fronts.
It was FAKE
I can see things as an autistic person that no one notices
None of the visuals matched properly!
Especially T's fake ear grab, poor acting and facial expressions
FAKED
That's why there are no reports from the FBI
Is the FBI MAGA too?
WTAF?
This could be totally cleared up if they had released the medical records from a reputable physician (not Ronnie Jackson).
well the FBI certainly was commissioned to protect the powerful and elite. that’s the American way.
Maybe they should look into the 7 million votes that disappeared also
There's a group could diagnose situations like this that they decide to, I believe they're called forensic architecture and it would be great if they figured it out, they probably could.
Trump is totally into the dramatic, theatrically, acting.
Indeed, he is a histrionic narcissist, so that goes with the territory.
Miles I agree with the top part of your writing. I’ve been very involved in the voting process though, and I think that if the vote was manipulated it was through extra ballots being given for Trump and passed thru by his minions. I don’t think the machines were manipulated because judges have to balance counts against ballots at the end of voting. And we saw where ballot boxes were set on fire and not a word from either side. Really? Is this legit?
I only heard of two ballot boxes that were set on fire, one in Portland Oregon and one in Vancouver Washington. The ballots were mostly saved in one of them. I'll check it out and see if I find more.
You know there were bomb threats from the Russians in dem precincts, right? They're always make it very hard for Black people to vote there, like long lines and bomb threats and reduced ballot boxes.
the weekday voting, WTAF why not on a Saturday given more people the chance to vote without taking a day off work which for many people is not an option ?!,
Ballot boxes set on fire in Grand Junction Colorado and another small town, AND 2 young women Stole over a dozen ballots out of the mail and signed voted submitted them... as "an experiment" that was Caught and landed them in Jail.
which shows how little voter fraud of the conventional type of “vote many” actually occurs in most countries. it’s the systematic fraud that needs more careful scrutiny.
It’s not just the swing states that need recounts. When I voted in the middle of Election Day, I was told that not only my polling site had run out of I Voted stickers, but every polling site in the city of Nee York had as well. Yet the results indicate that many fewer people than usual voted here. What happened to our votes?
Do you have a link or source to where "Trump talked about their "little secret" publicly"? Thank you
NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/28/us/politics/trump-secret-house-republicans-panic.html
Thank you
A few of Musks public displays of teenage-like arrogance seemed telling to me. the moment he went nuts on stage at a Trump rally was like he’d just been notified the fix was in, wouldn’t be detected, would work as planned, and his empire was about to continue on its government funded way with rules made to harass the progress of all his competitors (not that i have much sympathy for legacy automaker executives and shareholders, they’ve defied the transition to EVs for decades and actively tried to obstruct it, so on one level they deserve all harms coming their way)
Aw idk -- tell it to the judge. It was bad enough listening to Tramp seemingly forever talking about the steal -- I mean if there’s evidence yeah we all want to hear it and see it
Yes - classic misdirection, keep the media busy chasing the latest clown car.
smoke & mirrors distractions from the magicians...
we MUST focus on the SOLUTION
send messages to all dem governors & leaders
On WH website you can message Biden & Harris
I did this for 3 days after the election...
Why are we repeating Gore all over again?
We had Bush instead of Gore because of this sh*t
The election was called at 1:14 a.m. on November 6, 2024. The most important election in many lifetimes over before breakfast the next day.
that was the first red flag for me
Reminded me of the 2004 election, when I believe the result was called the following day for W
media was calling it before polling closed in CA, yet the final results showed it being a much tighter race. obviously it was a big swing, but down to the wire in terms of electoral collage votes in seven swing states. and all miraculously tallying just above the hand recount automatic threshold. too cute.
I stole this list and posted it on my FB account... Thanks.
I reposted as well
Yes, quoting another headline's question: "Are we at war with Russia?", the answer is yes, at least since 2014, of the greyzone variety. Trump appears to be an asset, perhaps since the late 1980s with Russian mob money buying his properties, bailing him out after bankruptcies, Gabbard may be an asset, they successfully hacked 2016 with active measures, and repeated that playbook in 2024 (see WAPO discussion of dark funding money, this is legal in our system), Musk and Trump in regular communication with Putin this past year (see Woodward), Musk saying he could hack the current system, also saying he will go to jail if Trump does not win, Trump knew he was going to jail if he did not win, Russia knows its going to lose vs Ukraine if Trump did not win, all three have means, methods and strong motives for this outcome.
https://wapo.st/4fMMdHw
Don't forget about James Kallstrom (deceased) & Charles McGonigal (in min. sec. prison in Minnesota, likely soon to be pardoned by Trump) also being part of all of this. They were also instrumental in infiltrating and compromising our FBI, & turning FBI Agents under them to loyalty to Trump. In fact, one of McGonigal's counterparts (Albanian) is running a foreclosure realty company in US right now. I would hazard a guess they all run in the same circles as Ivanka/Jared are in Albania.
not so sure about Ukraine results. Russia gained six times as much Ukrainian territory in 2024 as it did in 2023. most observers say Russia can maintain its grind while Zelenskyy is saying Ukraine must settle for peace and let Russia have its territorial gains in return for agreement that they can become part of NATO (officially as opposed to proxy NATO) . to save face he’s saying they must then trying to win back territories piecemeal style through “diplomatic” efforts). so why did he send his country to war, again?
Did Spoonamore go to the FBI? If a crime was committed the concession doesn’t matter. If a crime was committed the certification of the election doesn’t matter.
I hope that's true, because the dems and the media are silent. I'm so heartbroken that the out of state billionaire took Casey's seat for Senate in PA, too. and there was a recount.
I have been sending articles to my local media. I sent this and have called the White House. I watch The View and they seem unaware. They don’t discuss it. I can’t even get through to them does anyone? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!! NC deadline is Friday! ACT! Don’t just complain.
Maybe if each of us demands a recount at our precincts that would be a start?
if you live in NC contact Stephen Spoonamore directly, or just call the election officials and ask how to request a hand recount. this is moving very quickly
no Dems or corporate media want to be accused of being as bad as Trump. that’s the cleverness in the psychological projection narcissists use. they accuse other of that which they do themselves, making counter claims at some later point odious, nobody wants to stoop to their level of “false claims” again, even if the claims are credible and backed with evidence.
…democrats knew about the threat, had time to prevent it, but were busy gloating about Kamala’s “crowd size” comparing to trump and expected a “blue tsunami”, well… country that allows a dictator to become a dictator after he said he will be a dictator DESERVE A DICTATOR
A stupid tin pot one to be exact.
Only problem is we have to suffer the consequences along with them.
Perhaps they should divide the country in half: if you believe in reality and science and learning and knowledge, that's half the country, the other half would be maga, religious, book banners and the like. Please tell me we outnumber them?
for climate this is a major setback and will result in major damage to climate systems and ecological communities will be lost because of it i would think. we were just getting some momentum in the global efforts to transition away after four decades of blah blah blah the economics of RE have become unstoppable, but with FF oligarchs in the whitehouse and running the EPA it can be obstructed and delayed (hello Elon Musk, you complete fraud, remember those crocodile tears you wept about planetary GHG boundaries all those years ago).
Ian Dunlop and David Spratt call what the fossil fuels and many other GHG emitting industries do “predatory delay”. and they are absolutely masters at it. there they re clogging up the corridors t every COP talk and inside every superPAC and inside every parliament house/Congress/Duma screwing the future for the sake of obscene wealth for themselves and their friends.
What are the precincts that were compromised in the swing states? Maybe we can initiate a hand recount in those precincts?? Anyone know?
Although a roundabout way to do this:
1. This NYTimes map goes into precinct detail for 2020 election. Maybe, for swing States the precincts would be similar enough (to 2024 election) that you could capture the precinct to get the name of the precinct to request recounts.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/2020-election-map.html
2. Then, NBC News has the 2024 results by county. Click on the individual State, go to map and click on it to get county detail:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote
I couldn't find any "2024 Election" maps with precinct detail.
Can you request a recount if it’s not the county you live in?
Short answer:
Apparently, Ballotpedia has been reviewing that question re: 2024 election. I will post back if I find anything else.
Have a good night, Danarosannadana.
https://ballotpedia.org/Who_can_request_a_recount%3F_(2024)
sentent all the boundaries redefined in 2020, which happens every 10 years apparently. not sure if 2020 was the old boundaries or the new ones.
My problem with all of this is I've heard all of these "experts" yell for years about how easy it is to hack machines, when they clearly didn't understand how they were secured and handled physically, and you'd have to do some significant B&E to get to those "get into the machine in minutes" things they claimed were simple. I've been working elections with machines in Georgia since they were first introduced. I have worked for a very long time in IT. Perhaps I've just heard hair on fire nonsense for too long, and am so jaded I don't think it's worth my time to give the possibility of actual hacking any serious thought. I have no objection to anyone looking for evidence. Let me know when you find some. Till then I'll chalk it up to election shock (which I am feeling myself fwiw) and some bloviating of IT guys, which I've been exposed to, oh, it's pushing half a century now.
Did you read the article?
https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked
Serghiy what are you Russian? We don’t deserve a dictator, no one does. We deserve an honest President who wants to help people and not hurt them. A president who is not in it for himself, who wants to steal the US blind and give his cronies contracts and $$$$$.
Why indeed. Do the Dems not want to upset the enemy? What ARE they truly afraid of?
Not a record turnout.
It was a record in Wisconsin, 96% in my county, which is unprecedented. The Donald won the state by less than one percentage point
just to keep this intellectually honest—points 1-4 are a subjective reading of actual state-by-state turnout numbers combined with an obviously biased media narrative. this might help clear some things up: https://open.substack.com/pub/musaalgharbi/p/a-graveyard-of-bad-election-narratives
explain the bullet ballot anomaly. The stats are either correct or incorrect. If they are correct, then hand count to confirm, right?
How can we get a recount??
if you live in a Swing state call and ask an election official. even if just half a dozen get done, and there is a difference as Spoonamore predicts, then the dominoes could start falling, and the FBI could get started, I hope!
The Bannon strategy has indeed succeeded beyond belief. It has become slowly and distressingly ever clearer as the days and weeks and months and years have unfolded.
i don't know see why anybody needs to explain the bullet ballot anomaly. last i heard, these voting machines were completely unhackable. absolutely impenetrable. there was no need to wonder about the wisdom of moving away from paper ballots. it was as if God Himself was carving the vote totals onto the stone tablets at Mount Sinai. we didn't need to ask if juking the machines was theoretically possible; in fact, even asking the question was borderline treasonous.
so if we're going to treat our elections like a hack-a-thon, and Elon Musk managed to crack whatever Vulcan quantum-computing technology was being used in 2020—i guess he really is a supergenius who won the vote on a technicality, and deserves to be part of the new government as a Vetruvian Superman.
What i am hearing in your response is a dismissal of anomaly data. You have revealed yourself to be who I did not want to assume you to be. If you aren’t willing to look at that and say “yeah, that’s really weird. It probably should be looked at”, and instead respond with mockery, then you are obviously not a person who is here in good faith. I don’t recall the “unhackable” cries from 4 years ago. I recall “Hugo Chavez” and “Venezuela”. I recall Rudy Giuliani lying about poll workers. I recall 60 lawsuits, all of which failed due to lack of merit. I recall a bunch of audits and recounts. And dems didn’t fight that. All of that activity went through proper judicial process, much of which went through republican-appointed judges. So, I will ask again. If there is glaring anomaly in the number of bullet ballots just in swing states, do you think it’s a prudent idea to have a look at that? Or are you just a f’ing MAGAt clown who came here to show what a disingenuous pos you are.
Also, Elon is the richest man in the country, and possibly the world. That doesn’t make him some kind of hacking superman. He can simply hire people to do that. And as it was outlined, hacking superskills were not required. Only bad actors willing to do it. And since Republicans are basically fascists at this point who will stop at nothing to take power, in order to save “Dear Leader” Trump, I accept the possibility that YES, this could have happened. If you don’t, then you are either willfully ignorant or as malevolent as they are.
Well stated Steve!!
just out of curiosity—what's with this Victorian prudishness about swearing on the Internet? it's not like you're genuinely being polite: you only left out three letters of the word "fucking," so the implication is already clear. you're obviously comfortable comparing your political opponents to maggots. so why the pretense? people compulsively use these bizarre little anti-Trump innuendos and seem delighted with their own cleverness, as if these are *super* sophisticated insults. it's like children tittering about their first poop joke. very strange for an adult.
regardless, i'm an anarchist, so i don't have a dog in this fight. a pox on both your houses. (still astonishing how limited people's political imaginations are, when they believe that any critics of their side must necessarily be part of the opposition, as if their own moral universe is absolute. good luck with that in future elections.)
what i'm dismissing is the blatantly stupid double standard. wish i had time to put together a supercut of all the "conspiracy theory" dismissals of election fraud from the past four years; i've linked just one below, and trust that you can find your way around Google well enough to do the rest. this is the Faustian bargain that the legacy media made when it explicitly—proudly, even—jettisoned objectivity in the name of stopping Trump: the only thing they succeeded in doing was losing the trust of over half of the electorate. this is exactly why the Fourth Estate was meant to be a non-partisan institution. they can report on investigations and anomalies until they're blue in the face, and some of it might even be true, but a significant number of people will not take them seriously. i'm not a data scientist. i'll "explain the anomaly" when you explain why my car is making that funny noise. i rely on other people to tell me what's important, and i emphatically DO NOT TRUST the people who just spent four years saying that Trump was Literally Hitler, and they would do Anything to Save Democracy. that horse ran out of the barn years ago.
meanwhile, the people in your camp spent four years claiming that Trump won illegitimately in 2016; then you took four years off to scoff at the "MAGAts" who would dare to suggest there was any kind of self-dealing in 2020; now you're back to screaming at the top of your lungs that the whole thing is some sort of Illuminati plot. you cried wolf too many times. these are the consequences you get to live with. maybe there's a lesson here for the future.
in the meantime, you kids have fun storming the castle.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91211171/dominion-voting-systems-is-still-a-gop-bogeyman-ahead-of-the-election
Um, to get away from sweeping rants about the media and back to intellectual honestly— a key reason for the dismissal of Trump’s stolen election complaints is that there was never data supportive of his claims. Another key reason is that despite that lack of data, his claims were investigated thoroughly and repeatedly, exhaustively! by Trump-funded, Trump-aligned groups, and despite that, there was never any evidence of fraud discovered.
“We don’t need to investigate this anomaly because you all said it was safe” is disingenuous at best, and bare trolling at worst. It’s possible to think you’ve secured something, and be wrong. If there is direct data suggestive of foul play, it should be explored.
Me thinks you doth blab BS too much....
Drumpf voters are low information voters and don’t follow politics
And Elon Musk told Tucker Carlson weeks before election that he could be put in prison if Trump loses election. Why????
so they can call people hysterical if they point to that probably. also hubris. few men in the world with more hubris than Elon Musk, who amongst all his false claims and unrealised promises, claimed a few years ago he probably knows more about manufacture technology than anybody in the world. presumably more than those engineers who work for companies doing the actual work of detailed design/specification of the new manufacturing technologies that Tesla and SpaceX are iterating from existing state of the art industrial processes.
the difference between this and “stop the steal” is that I don’t want this to be true, but the swing state data is troubling and would appear compelling enough to warrant a hand count. in the very least it would lay these concerns to rest.
Common sense raises a red flag for me. How on earth all swing states. Ot was too perfect. And now the probability is s scientifically too perfect to be true. 🤷🏼♀️
statistically impossible - hand counts need to take place. one way or another to put an end to all of this. We deserve a simple answer.
Yes Linda. Exactly. Too easy for trumpolini. And Harris had phenomenal crowds with wild enthusiasm. Are we going to wait until a criminal destroys our country, then find out he cheated AGAIN!
Right, the right wingers got all kinds of recounts done. Why do the dems run and hide? We deserve to be pacified just like the other side was. WTF???
The recount circus in Arizona in 2021 was wild and was encouraged by a right-wing organization to do. Election results didn’t change after the recount was done.
Yes. A HAND RECOUNT of the 7 swing states would remedy everything. How to get that accomplished? Get busy and contact the White House & your representatives.
Because the left in those states can’t count. If you think they didn’t get it right the first time, why would you trust them to get it right a second time. Lol
What are the precincts affected? How can we find out?? We should contact those precincts for a hand recount.
This link has everyone you can contact about this issue, to get them invovled. https://blog.voteforlove.net/2024/11/20/unhack-the-2024-presidential-election/
There needs to be a combined effort to persuade the WH, based on these findings, to request a recount. That’s still our democratic right!
That’s what I don’t understand. If we did the recount and the result was the same (as it was in 2020), then at least we’d KNOW. If anything the multiple 2020 recounts (3x in GA!!!) should’ve been reassuring that THOSE elections were exceedingly secure. But now…the math truly isn’t mathing. We can scientifically and critically provide empirical data (not theories or “gut feelings” but REAL EVIDENCE) that none of this makes sense. The powers that be, who are supposed to protect us against dictatorship, know this in their hearts to be true. Then, if they truly love America and our democracy as they claim, WHY ARE THEY NOT DOING OR SAYING ANYTHING??!!
Violence and staging an insurrection at the Capitol was cowardly and stupid for anyone to do, let alone if Jan 6 was just a few people at the capitol instead of thousands. Like they thought they wouldn’t get caught for doing what they did? They were wrong.
I’m really tired hearing of election fraud, but this is a cause for concern that reminds me of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election that was never fully resolved. Wasn’t that considered to be the Mueller Report?
If a recount is attempted in the swing states mentioned in the article, I don’t think they’d have enough time to certify them by the deadline which is sometime in early December. So I’m guessing an investigation by the DOJ would need to happen and that could take a while, kind of like how the Mueller Report took awhile for it to be released.
Dems could do a Cyber-Ninja 2.0 if permitted.
The reason for the swing state sweep is that the majority of people are sick of the left wing rot in our country. Trump won despite the cheating on the left. Funny how the left wing states can’t count😂😂. Ridiculous they are still counting and voilà! The left candidate wins by 5 votes. What a fraud!!
Whatever you say sunshine. You clowns always swallow the bullshit & completely ignore reality. Enjoy your victory, maga- making assholes great again!
I’ve seen news reports that mock this as “blue-anon” conspiracy theories. When our trusted investigative journalists won’t check into this and verify or disprove it, how are we ever going to know what’s true and what’s false? Given the decade of propaganda from the MAGA camp, I despair for the truth.
In the 2020 election only Republicans challenged election results, only for Trump & only in swing states. Democrats ignored the numerous suspicious congressional results, in which the vast majority of tossup races went to Republicans, a highly improbable result. Lindsey Graham, who was caught pressuring Georgia officials to throw out votes from majority Democratic precincts, was in a tossup race himself, the most expensive Senate race up to that time. Do you think he wouldn't have first made sure South Carolina election officials secured the win for him before concerning himself with other states? Do you think that if Trump & Graham were meddling in the elections of certain states that other Republicans weren't doing the same in other states?
Now many people have looked at all the suspicious evidence & put 2 & 2 together & called the alarm that the election has been tampered with, & this administration & congressional Democrats have failed to react. That makes the Democratic Party, especially the DNC & corporatist establishment, along with Biden, Garland & the DOJ & FBI, useless, if not complicit, in the loss of our democracy & everything else good about America as we knowingly slip into fascism with no resistance by those with the authority & power to stop & reverse this course.
I agree Jaime and said this same thing in my comment before I saw yours. Such a lack of action from Biden, Harris, DNC, of course…Garland, & FBI. They appear fine with throwing us to FASCISM without a fight with the biggest psychopath, seditionist, rapist & CONVICTED Felon at the helm.
Trump shits on the FBI but they seem OK with everything too.
The Dems promised us democracy and let us down, big time. They are so ..ucking unaware what each one of them and also all of us are facing in this new administration.
Where are the fighters?
they know plenty more than you and i about it. but they’re in a system that trades allegiance for the honour of high office. they need a lot more than potentially this looks off to stake heir reputations on. also look what Biden and Harris have been doing in the Middle East. the USA intelligence community and some of the Pentagon top brass are in control of that strategy and are paying the bills. it’s called Empire and it’s been around for eons.
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Greg Palast...
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Send them the article with its entirety:
https://open.substack.com/pub/planetcritical/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked
Are we now saying the "media" is a Right conspiracy? They got bored with aligning left?
The "liberal media" has always been a right wing talking point, nothing more. In other words, it's bullshit. So no, Maryan, they didn't get bored of aligning with the left because they were never aligned with them in the first place.
US media left wing? they don’t even allow academics like John Mershhiemer, professors of international relations/political science/political history known as “realists” on the US media, corporate, public (to the extent that even exists in USA) and they are just as critical of neocons if not more so than critical of liberalism and the constant wars perpetuated by the US Hegemony to defend and expand Empire and her perceived best interests (from an elitist perspective no doubt). there’s many US public intellectuals welcomed and respected in Europe who are just shut out of USA media. Chomsky at least gets an occasional hearing on PBS (with a very small national audience in comparison to the Murdoch media alone, then all the other RW corporate media) but i’m not aware of regular or irregular appearances on US corporate media.
the wall of lies and conditioning that is the US media (programs and advertising) is extremely biased towards supporting special interests with money and drowning out activists, truth, honesty and other ways of seeing the world that don’t play to commercial and military interests. it’s what Steve Bannon called “flooding the zone” with (suspicious) information so consumers of news-themed entertainment give up on knowing what to believe other than that which their own prejudices and tribal leaders tell the, to believe. Orwell called it Newspeak, but it doesn’t have to be so overtly propagandist emanating from a central point of total control. the Right have learned it can be decentralised, even as far as Russian cyber-security ops in Asian locations, and contradictory all the time, as long as it drowns out truth and destroys the potential for honest discourse in the public forums we have available to us.
Because the media is owned by the right now. Ughhh.
This guy, Spoonamore says, “prove me wrong.” I think that’s a fair request. It’s worth looking into. He makes a compelling case. He’s confident the 2024 election was hacked. The quotes of Trump saying, “ I have enough votes,” are real. We all heard them in real time. We all saw and questioned the one-million dollar a day lottery that Musk ran in real time. I’m not an expert on computer technology but you don’t have to be to see CLEARLY, something nefarious went on here. As a side note, (was not mentioned in this article but I thought about it), is why did Ivanka needed and obtained a voting machine patent a couple years ago? Just asking out of curiosity.
THANK you for noting the voting machine patent(s)! I read that there were over 40 individual patents for voting machines that she obtained. Why on earth would one need those…🤔
Facts. Snopes has an article on the rumors. Trademarks not patents https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ivanka-trump-voting-machines/
Thank you for sharing this. It’s very helpful and clarifies the rumors.
What’s your source for the Ivanka patents? I’ve never heard of this before. That is kind of information we need.
That Ivanka got the trade concession on voting machines occurred and was reported on when she accompanied Dada to China as a “presidential advisor.” Body bags and coffins, too, which are also weird things for MsFashionista go want to dabble with profitably. A search should find a plethora of articles re. And notice she has stayed out of the country for some reason. Does the US have an extradition treaty with the Saudis?