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William Talen's avatar

Crucial words from Rachel Donald. Irreducibly clear meaning.

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I'm genuinely confused what you are saying here.

One minute it's students being arrested for protesting - the next minute it's Israel's war crimes?

PROTESTS: We are not told anything about what those students were doing to get arrested. I'm all for peaceful protest. But breaking windows and unlawfully stopping traffic and vandalising public facilities - not so much. The working class colleagues I have are increasingly upset by Extinction Rebellion and their unnecessary vandalism. Why punish people just trying to get through their day by causing traffic chaos? Want to make progress in promoting climate awareness? Don't do that. I'm known as "The greenie" at work. I hate it when my morning headlines tell me Extinction Rebellion have done something stupid again - because I know I'm going to get it at work!

Then suddenly we jump to Israel's horrific treatment of Gaza. The attack on Israel was also horrific - but Israel has now killed 43 TIMES the civilians that the terrorists killed in Israel - and we have no idea what percentage of those may have even been involved in Hamas. Odds are low that it is even a 10th of 1 percent. But this is then generalised to all states across all time.

Then suddenly we're back on students protests again - "They may even be killed, because we must never assume the state’s willingness to commit violence against its subjects’ bodies stops at incarceration." Wow. Statistics please.

Events like Kent State are still commemorated today - half a century later. Because they're so terrible and rare. But unfortunately in the USA where gun ownership is so insanely high it's something like 110 guns per 100 people - many of the BLM protests in 2020 were actually protestors shooting each other!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

Sure BLM raised some systemic issues. Where there are specific issues of policy or police corruption - please call it out! In a specific way. With details. Because no system is perfect. Police and politics and policies can be corrupted because people can be corrupted. People all have their own proclivities.

I'm not stating the 'system' is perfect - but that I am simply grateful for law and order, because the alternative is far, far worse.

Sure - in some regional areas of Australia or America I'd really hate to be black! There are varying kinds of state corruption and bad policing policies. BLM raised some very real issues.

But the way you write it sounds like you believe it's all bad, all the time. Can I suggest not writing with such universal reprobation of everything, everywhere, all at once?

Not every democratic nation is behaving like Israel - all the time. Some have Prime Ministers that speak out against it.

Of course the state has power. That's what it is to live in a nation with law and order. What's the alternative? Anarchy is worse. Far worse.

From the last few months of your blog, I'm getting the picture that we're to trust in the loving vibes and good wishes of an ecovillage commune? WITHOUT a state? Without police? Without laws? Without separation between 'us' and 'nature'? I'm honestly confused as to what you are proposing?

Neo-primitivist anarchy? What could possibly go wrong?

While we're on eco-villages - when was the last time you googled how many communes self-destruct after 5 years because of personal conflict? Even at our best- nature loving ecovillage vegans are people too. Corruptible. Prone to pettiness. Exhaustion. Selfishness. Weird proclivities.

We all have our proclivities. When it comes down to it - I want to be able to call the police when someone has let their 'proclivities' stray into the unsafe or illegal. Because sometimes we need 'state violence'. Like just a few weeks ago at Bondi shopping mall. State violence stopped someone running around with a knife, stabbing women and children. Six people died. It could have been so much worse.

But a cop put a bullet through them and ended it. Are you saying you didn't want that cop to be there?

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