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Gunnar Rundgren's avatar

By and large, I agree.

However, while there is no proven causal link between vaccines and autism, that doesn't imply that there are no reasons to be a bit cautious about vaccines, even those that have been considered safe. The Pandremix vaccinations against the H1N1 "swine flue" did cause narcolepsy, despite the fact that authorities encouraged its use. https://www.lakemedelsverket.se/globalassets/dokument/behandling-och-forskrivning/vaccin/occurrence-of-narcolepsy-with-cataplexy-among-children-and-adolescents-in-relation-to-the-h1n1-pandemic-and-pandemrix-vaccinations-2011-06-30.pdf

To reduce skepticism of vaccines to anti-science is therefore not really helpful. I find it a bit astonishing to see how the vaccine debate in the US is framed as an either-or discussion. The fact that Sweden has less mandatory or recommended vaccines for children than the US or that it doesn't recommend covid vaccines to children is not because Sweden is anti-vaxx, it is just that it has a bit more cautios approach to vaccines. The same goes for the use of thimerosal in vaccines. It is made a big deal that "kennedy" want to prohibit its use. But it was banned for human use in Sweden already 1993, it is only allowed for animal vaccines!

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Richard Bergson's avatar

I would heartily agree with the analysis and I would also put a word in for Richard Murphy whose piece this morning promotes the politics of care over Social Democracy, Capitalism, Neoliberalism and even Socialism! Worth a watch. Hope you don't mind me linking this. https://youtu.be/mMLLrdFj9mI?si=U2nW3Yo4dFwR8Gqf

I'm somewhat cool on the idea of persuading anyone - let alone conspiracy theorists - of their mistaken attributions but I do appreciate that validating their intuition is a good response. This may be just a personal thing as although I'm up for a robust debate with those I know I baulk at any whiff of evangelism, especially with people I'm less familiar.

The furthest I would go would be to start with the validation and acknowledge I have a different idea of why they are feeling the way than they do but that I have no intention of getting them to adopt it. Rather, appeal to their ability to think for themselves, check their information and come to their own conclusion if they haven't already. If 'truth' is not their primary goal they are unlikely even to go that far. Leaving such a encounter without rancour is important as all I can really do is leave the door open and wait for something to shake the foundations of their belief.

That doesn't mean that inside I'm not busting to convert them!

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